Legislature(2021 - 2022)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/29/2022 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:06:05 AM Presentation: Department of Public Safety Fy 23 Budget Overview
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      March 29, 2022                                                                                            
                         9:02 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:02:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:02 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Kelly  Howell,   Special  Assistant  to   the  Commissioner,                                                                    
Department of  Public Safety; James  Cockrell, Commissioner,                                                                    
Department   of   Public   Safety;   Leon   Morgan,   Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner,  Department of  Public  Safety; Dianne  Casto,                                                                    
Executive Director, Council on  Domestic Violence and Sexual                                                                    
Assault;                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  DEPARTMENT  OF  PUBLIC SAFETY  FY  23  BUDGET                                                                    
OVERVIEW                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  HIRING BONUSES  and  RETENTION INCENTIVES  BY                                                                    
THE DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT and BUDGET                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC  SAFETY  FY 23  BUDGET                                                                  
OVERVIEW                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:06:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  stressed that masks  would be worn  in the                                                                    
room to protect the members  from COVID-19. He asserted that                                                                    
the committee  members needed to  be healthy and  present to                                                                    
complete  work  on  the  budget on  time.  He  reminded  the                                                                    
presenters to avoid  the use of acronyms and  to explain the                                                                    
presentation simply.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:07:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY  HOWELL,   SPECIAL  ASSISTANT  TO   THE  COMMISSIONER,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY, introduced herself.  She noted                                                                    
that  she  had  worked  with co-chair  staff  to  craft  the                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:08:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES COCKRELL,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY,                                                                    
introduced himself.  He shared that the  budgetary focus for                                                                    
the  department  was  statutory  requirements,  departmental                                                                    
priorities,  administrative priorities,  rural support,  and                                                                    
revitalizing  the  Village   Public  Safety  Officer  (VPSO)                                                                    
program. He relayed that because  the budget should meet the                                                                    
demands of  the department,  while exploring ways  to better                                                                    
utilize  resources  and  better communicate  with  citizens,                                                                    
there were budget requests for  Tribal Liaisons for VPSO and                                                                    
troopers, as  well as Victim Witness  Coordinators for major                                                                    
areas of the state.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:10:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  recalled a specific  case of  public safety                                                                    
in his district  from May 2020 and remarked  that the people                                                                    
wanted closure on  the issue. He said that  survivors of the                                                                    
incident  could  not  move on  with  their  practical  lives                                                                    
because of  lack of information  and communication  from the                                                                    
department.  He lamented  that individuals  in rural  Alaska                                                                    
had very  limited resources  and deserved  every opportunity                                                                    
to  get closure  without  hitting a  bureaucratic wall  when                                                                    
dealing with the  department. He wanted the  issue look into                                                                    
and for help  to be provided to the survivors  so they could                                                                    
move on with their lives.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:13:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked that the information  be provided to                                                                    
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:13:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  agreed to  examine the  situation. He                                                                    
said that  it was a  priority for the department  to provide                                                                    
more support in rural Alaska.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:14:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  felt that the  subject could  be addressed                                                                    
at the appropriate time in the presentation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:14:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  discussed   the  presentation,  "Department  of                                                                    
Public  Safety;  FY2023   Budget  Overview;  Senate  Finance                                                                    
Committee; March  29, 2022" (copy  on file). She  pointed to                                                                    
slide  2,  "Department  of   Public  Safety;  FY2023  Budget                                                                    
Overview;  Senate Finance  Committee; March  29, 2022."  She                                                                    
shared that the  slide had been prepared  by the Legislative                                                                    
Finance division (LFD) and provided  a ten-year lookback for                                                                    
the departments  operating  budget. She said that  the FY 23                                                                    
budget  request   reflected  a  15  percent   increase  over                                                                    
previous  years.  She mentioned  that  $9.7  million of  the                                                                    
increase  was  due to  the  transfer  of the  Alaska  Public                                                                    
Safety  Communication   Services  from  the   Department  of                                                                    
Military and  Veterans  Affairs (DMVA) to  the Department of                                                                    
Public Safety  (DPS). She  said the  majority of  the budget                                                                    
was funded  undesignated general funds (UGF)  at 77 percent,                                                                    
followed by federal funds at 15 percent.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:15:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked for an  explanation of  the increase                                                                    
in the FY 20 management plan.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:16:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  replied that the  department had an  increase in                                                                    
UGF  from FY  19 to  FY 20  due to  the addition  of several                                                                    
positions  and an  increase in  federal  funds. She  thought                                                                    
that the  increased federal funds  could be  associated with                                                                    
the Council on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault.                                                                            
9:16:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  remarked that  request had gone  from $161                                                                    
million in FY 19 to $212 million in FY 23.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:17:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:17:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  hoped that the presentation  would explain                                                                    
the growth within the agency.  He did not suggest the growth                                                                    
was  unwarranted  but  hoped  for  more  background  on  the                                                                    
current request.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:17:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell stressed that the growth  between FY 20 and FY 23                                                                    
had been from  additional positions added in  FY 21 combined                                                                    
with  the federal  funding. She  stated that  the department                                                                    
was recovering from prior budget  reductions and was working                                                                    
to regrow the department to past levels.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:18:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman questioned the  accuracy of that statement.                                                                    
He  noted that  UGF  was flat  at $164  million  from FY  13                                                                    
through to  FY 19.  He wondered  whether there  were numbers                                                                    
indicating  that  the  department  had  ever  been  at  $212                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:18:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  clarified that  the  department  was trying  to                                                                    
regain  prior levels  as well  as increase  growth with  the                                                                    
addition of new positions,  new programs to bolster services                                                                    
to rural  Alaska, and  shifting some  work from  troopers to                                                                    
civilian staff within the department.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:19:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  clarified  that  there  had  been  budget                                                                    
reductions  in several  agencies and  the University,  while                                                                    
there  had  been growth  in  the  budgets  for DPS  and  the                                                                    
Department of Corrections (DOC).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:19:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  looked  at   slide  3,  "Appropriations  within                                                                    
Department  of Public  Safety." She  related that  the slide                                                                    
had  been  prepared  by  LFD  and  showed  the  department's                                                                    
allocations  over  the  past  10 years.  The  top  red  line                                                                    
represented Alaska  State Trooper appropriation and  was the                                                                    
biggest  portion  of the  budget  at  $166.2 million  or  66                                                                    
percent.   She   relayed    that   the   Statewide   Support                                                                    
appropriation was 18 percent of  the budget; followed by the                                                                    
Council on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:20:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  addressed  slide  4,  "State  Trooper  Budgeted                                                                    
Position History."  She said  that between FY  16 and  FY 19                                                                    
the department  lost over 40 trooper  positions; the request                                                                    
for an  additional 17 positions  in FY  23 will result  in a                                                                    
gain of 37  positions. She stated that the  chart broke down                                                                    
the troopers  between the Alaska  Wildlife Division  and the                                                                    
Alaska  State  Trooper  Division.   The  total  of  the  two                                                                    
divisions in FY 22 excluded  17 funded State Trooper Recruit                                                                    
positions,  because the  legislature had  added funding  for                                                                    
those positions  in FY 21.  She relayed that there  were 402                                                                    
positions between the two divisions combined.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:22:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman wondered  how many of the  17 positions were                                                                    
off the road system.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:22:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell replied that those  positions were at the academy                                                                    
in  Sitka and  were placeholders  for new  recruits as  they                                                                    
entered the  training program.  Once training  was complete,                                                                    
they were transferred into a different position.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:22:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked how many  of the 17 positions would be                                                                    
placed off the road system once they completed training.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:22:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Cockrell  replied   that  once   the  student                                                                    
graduated  from  the academy,  they  went  to one  of  three                                                                    
places for training: Soldotna,  Mat-Su Valley, or Fairbanks.                                                                    
After a two-year probationary period,  they could request to                                                                    
be  placed in  rural  Alaska.  He said  that  there were  73                                                                    
positions to serve  Kotzebue to Kodiak, down  to the Bristol                                                                    
Bay region.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:24:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  understood  that the  question  would  be                                                                    
addressed further in the presentation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:24:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop queried the attrition rate at the academy.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:24:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell agreed to provide that information.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:24:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  clarified that none  of the numbers  included in                                                                    
the 17 recruits. She pointed  to slide 5, "State Trooper Job                                                                    
Class  Series."  The slide  showed  how  the positions  were                                                                    
allocated within each budget allocation,  as well as the job                                                                    
class  title  and  the division.  She  reiterated  that  the                                                                    
Alaska   State  Trooper   Detachments  allocation   was  the                                                                    
largest.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:26:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered where  the commissioner and deputy                                                                    
commissioner in the table on slide 5 would be located.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:26:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  responded  that  the  two  positions  would  be                                                                    
budgeted  in the  Statewide  Services  allocation under  the                                                                    
Commissioners   Office, as  well  as the  two colonels  that                                                                    
directed the division.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:26:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman understood  that the  slide contained  the                                                                    
 worker bees in the division.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:27:20 AM                                                                                                                    
Ms. Howell agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:27:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  wondered  about  the  Statewide  Drug  and                                                                    
Alcohol Enforcement  Unit. He  noted the  connection between                                                                    
crime in rural  Alaska and the use of alcohol  and drugs. He                                                                    
queried the accomplishments  of the unit as  the problem was                                                                    
persistent in rural areas of the state.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:28:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought the presenter  could give  a brief                                                                    
history  of the  matter and  provide further  written detail                                                                    
later. He  thought that the  unit had made some  progress in                                                                    
Southeast Alaska in the previous years.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:28:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell directed  committee attention  to the                                                                    
departments   annual   Drug  Report.   He  said   that  drug                                                                    
investigators  were   stationed  throughout  the   state;  3                                                                    
investigators  were stationed  in Bethel.  He said  that the                                                                    
department was engaged in drug  seizures throughout eh state                                                                    
includeing being members of several Task Forces.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:29:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  hoped  for more  detail  broken  down  by                                                                    
region.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:29:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell replied in the affirmative.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:29:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell discussed  slide 6,  "State Trooper  Job Class."                                                                    
The  slide  showed  the   positions  by  allocation,  vacant                                                                    
positions within  each allocation,  and where new  PCNs were                                                                    
being  requested.  She  relayed  that FY  22  budgeted  PCNs                                                                    
totaled 419; total  vacant PCNs was 67.  The overall vacancy                                                                    
rate  was 16  percent.  New PCN  requests  were as  follows:                                                                    
Alaska State  Trooper Detachments, 12; Aircraft  Section, 2;                                                                    
Alaska Wildlife Troopers, 3.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:30:27 AM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  whether  the  vacancy  number  was                                                                    
normal for the department.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:30:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LEON  MORGAN,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF  PUBLIC                                                                    
SAFETY,  replied that  the vacancy  rate was  high, but  the                                                                    
department felt positive that positions would be filled.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:31:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered about historical vacancy rates.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:31:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Deputy   Commissioner   Morgan   agreed  to   provide   that                                                                    
information  to the  committee. He  expressed hope  to bring                                                                    
the vacancy rate into the single digits.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  shared  that  there  would  always  be  a                                                                    
vacancy rate, generally 5 or  6 percent, a zero-vacancy rate                                                                    
did not exist, and that single digits were optimal.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:32:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop wondered whether  the retention factors were                                                                    
increasing or decreasing. He wondered  whether the state was                                                                    
losing trained staff to the Lower 48 states.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:33:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Deputy Commissioner Morgan replied  that improvements in the                                                                    
environment  had  helped with  retention  but  burn out  was                                                                    
still a problem with troopers and VPSOs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:34:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski  spoke   of  bills  currently  cycling                                                                    
through the legislature  to return to a  defined benefit. He                                                                    
wondered whether a  defined benefit would have  an impact on                                                                    
recruitment and retention in his department.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:34:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Deputy  Commissioner  Morgan  replied  that  goo  retirement                                                                    
packages were  important. He  said he  could not  comment on                                                                    
specific legislation.                                                                                                           
9:35:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  displayed  slide  7,  "Trooper  Vacancy  Factor                                                                    
Information        Detachments   Allocation."    The   slide                                                                    
illustrated the  number positions by location,  and broke FY                                                                    
22 management plan  down by budgeted PCNs,  vacant PCNs, and                                                                    
actual  vacancy  rate.  Figures   for  FY  23  included  new                                                                    
position requests  and gov FY  23 new PCN cost  once filled.                                                                    
She noted that of the  242 positions, the most troopers were                                                                    
in Fairbanks.  She said that  there was a 12.4  vacancy rate                                                                    
within  the detachments  allocation, 12  new positions  were                                                                    
requested with an estimated const  of $3 million. She stated                                                                    
that the budgeted vacancy factor  for the trooper detachment                                                                    
allocation was 6.9  percent, with a 12.4  vacancy rate there                                                                    
was  excess personal  services in  the allocation.  She said                                                                    
that the  department had the  ability to shift  fund amongst                                                                    
the    personal   services    line   within    the   trooper                                                                    
appropriation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:37:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop asked for a map  of the coverage of areas in                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:37:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman   noted  that,  of  the   twelve  requested                                                                    
positions,  ten  were in  Wasilla  and  Palmer. He  wondered                                                                    
whether that was  because those areas had  the highest crime                                                                    
rate.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:38:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell replied  that the  positions were  to                                                                    
provide  more support  for troopers  currently stationed  in                                                                    
those areas.  He shared that  the jurisdiction  was immense,                                                                    
and more troopers  were needed to respond to  all the calls.                                                                    
He  said  that once  those  areas  were settled,  then  more                                                                    
troopers could  be placed  in rural areas  of the  state. He                                                                    
lamented  that  lack of  adequate  housing  for troopers  in                                                                    
rural Alaska  kept the department  from placing  troopers in                                                                    
those communities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:39:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman remarked  that  housing had  been built  in                                                                    
Bethel  over  ten  years  ago.  He  argued  that  the  Yukon                                                                    
Kuskoquim  Delta  (YK  Delta)  was twice  the  size  of  the                                                                    
Palmer/Wasilla  area  and  contained 56  villages,  many  of                                                                    
which did not  have even a VPSO presence.  He contended that                                                                    
the  new request  allocation should  consider the  statewide                                                                    
perspective and the  need for additional troopers  in the YK                                                                    
Delta.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:40:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski wondered  whether  the department  had                                                                    
received funding for rural trooper housing in FY 22.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:40:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked that the  answer include  rolling in                                                                    
of the federal money available                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:41:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  responded  that  she  could  get  back  to  the                                                                    
committee on  the issue of  rural trooper housing.  She said                                                                    
that  any   federal  dollars  were  being   managed  by  the                                                                    
Department of Commerce,  Community, and Economic Development                                                                    
(DCCD).  She said  that communities  that  had had  received                                                                    
funds   were  working   with   DCCD   to  overcome   federal                                                                    
requirements  for constructing  housing. She  said that  the                                                                    
federal  rules regarding  environmental impacts  was slowing                                                                    
the work.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:42:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  shared that the  staff would reach  out to                                                                    
DCCD for a written response to the issue.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:43:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  noted that U.S.  Attorney General  Barr has                                                                    
written a   scathing  report on  the conditions and  lack of                                                                    
services in rural Alaska. He  said that Wasilla, Palmer, and                                                                    
Soldotna were not mentioned anywhere in the report.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:44:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell replied  that  he  agreed that  there                                                                    
were  great needs  in  rural Alaska.  He  stressed that  law                                                                    
enforcement  presence in  rural  Alaska had  been a  problem                                                                    
since  statehood.   He  assured   the  committee   that  the                                                                    
department   was  working   to  address   the  problem.   He                                                                    
reiterated   that   the   biggest  limitation   facing   the                                                                    
department  was  housing  in  rural  Alaska.  He  said  that                                                                    
criminal  investigators  had  been assigned  in  Bethel  and                                                                    
Nome. He  recognized that  the crime  rates in  rural Alaska                                                                    
were staggering. He  said that a crime  scene technician was                                                                    
being placed in Bethel.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:46:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman said that in  the YK Delta the housing issue                                                                    
had been  addressed by additional  funds being put  into the                                                                    
budget by administration, which  led to bids on construction                                                                    
and  the houses  being built.  He felt  that the  same thing                                                                    
could happen in  Bristol Bay and Norton Sound.  He felt that                                                                    
the  problem and  solution had  already been  identified and                                                                    
wondered why the problem was not being solved.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:47:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell replied that  there were housing units                                                                    
in Kotzebue that  were leased and the housing  in Bethel was                                                                    
at  capacity.  He said  that  housing  was needed  in  Saint                                                                    
Michaels, Emmonak, Hooper Bay,  and Ambler. He stressed that                                                                    
troopers  could  not  be  placed   in  those  areas  without                                                                    
housing.  He added  that troopers  should not  be responding                                                                    
from  the larger  hubs because  weather could  be an  issue,                                                                    
leaving VPSOs to  hold the scene until  troopers arrived. He                                                                    
said  that stationing  troopers in  rural Alaska  would cost                                                                    
money  and  could not  happen  without  the support  of  the                                                                    
administration and the legislature.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:48:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  spoke  of the  department's  response  to  a                                                                    
recent  fire in  his district  and thanked  the commissioner                                                                    
for his service to that community.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:49:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski  surmised  that the  report  from  LFD                                                                    
showed that  the department  reallocated $325  thousand from                                                                    
rural trooper housing to a different area in the budget.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:49:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell replied that was  correct. She explained that the                                                                    
rural  trooper  housing  allocation  was  funding  that  the                                                                    
department used to pay for  rural trooper housing leases and                                                                    
received funding  through rental  payments made  by troopers                                                                    
under their collective bargaining  agreements. She said that                                                                    
transfer  of  funds  out of  that  allocation  into  another                                                                    
allocation under the state  troopers  appropriation was made                                                                    
to balance  expenditures and revenue.  She said that  it was                                                                    
possible that the  transfers would need to  reoccur again in                                                                    
the coming fiscal year.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:50:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop  requested that  the department  provide the                                                                    
committee  with  the  ten-year strategic  plan  for  trooper                                                                    
housing in rural Alaska.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:50:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell agreed to  provide the information. He                                                                    
added  several examples  of  the  difficulty the  department                                                                    
faced  when  trying  to procure  trooper  housing  in  rural                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:51:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  reiterated   that  the  budgeted  vacancy                                                                    
factor was  6.9 percent, and  the actual was 12  percent. He                                                                    
requested further  clarification on  how funds  were handled                                                                    
to reflect the difference in percentage.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:51:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell replied that the  difference between the budgeted                                                                    
and  the  actual  vacancy  factors  was  approximately  $2.8                                                                    
million   and  were   personal   services  funds   currently                                                                    
allocated  to unfilled  positions. The  funds would  be used                                                                    
for unanticipated  responses to law enforcement  expenses as                                                                    
well  as  position  transfer   expenses  due  to  geographic                                                                    
differentials.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:53:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman spoke of  budgeting challenges and wondered                                                                    
about funding for new positions.  He struggled with the fact                                                                    
that there  was no  funding in place  for the  12 additional                                                                    
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:54:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  responded that the  12 positions  were currently                                                                    
in  the  budget  with  no funding.  She  relayed  that  full                                                                    
funding  would  be  requested in  a  supplemental  once  the                                                                    
positions were filled.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:55:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman expressed  distaste for supplemental budget                                                                    
requests. He wondered whether there  was room in the vacancy                                                                    
factor  to absorb  the  expense. He  noted  30 unfilled  but                                                                    
funded positions currently within the department.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:57:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  thought that it  would be challenging  to absorb                                                                    
the expense if all the  positions were filled. She said that                                                                    
if the vacancy  rate remained the same  the department could                                                                    
move money to cover the cost  of the positions to the extent                                                                    
possible. She stressed that the  goal was to get the vacancy                                                                    
rate reduced and the trooper positions filled.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked about where  the new  troopers would                                                                    
be placed in  the state. He thought there were  areas in the                                                                    
state that  could afford their own  police department, which                                                                    
could  free  up resources  for  communities  that could  not                                                                    
afford law enforcement.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:58:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  stated that the department  could not                                                                    
dictate  where services  were provided.  He said  that there                                                                    
were   areas   that   had   statutory   and   constitutional                                                                    
requirement for  trooper placement. He recalled  that in the                                                                    
past troopers  had been moved  from urban to rural  areas of                                                                    
the state  and the  troopers had quit,  due to  overwork. He                                                                    
said that  there had to  be a consensus among  policy makers                                                                    
to decide  the best direction  for the state. He  offered an                                                                    
option of giving the department  the ability to contract out                                                                    
like  the  Royal  Canadian  Mounted  Police  (RCMP)  did  in                                                                    
Whitehorse.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:00:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell concluded his remarks.                                                                                    
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if the  legislature  made a  policy                                                                    
call pertaining  to affordability of contracting  troopers -                                                                    
he  wondered how  many law  enforcement officers  that would                                                                    
make available for rural areas.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  admitted that  there was not  an area                                                                    
of the state  that DPS provided adequate  protection for the                                                                    
public.  He stressed  that if  the department  was going  to                                                                    
continue to  provide support to  the state, they  would need                                                                    
more  budgetary support  from the  legislature. He  lamented                                                                    
that  rural Alaska  had been  neglected for  law enforcement                                                                    
since statehood.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:03:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman spoke  of funding  through property  taxes                                                                    
and the equity issue that practice created in rural Alaska.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:04:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked  about the  issue of  moving troopers                                                                    
from Kenai to rural Alaska. He  said that when there were no                                                                    
troopers  in rural  Alaska -  there was  no law  enforcement                                                                    
readily available. He thought that  the idea of moving a few                                                                    
troopers from urban  to rural areas was a good  idea for the                                                                    
protection of  rural Alaskans. He  argued that  all Alaskans                                                                    
deserved  protection. He  reminded the  commissioner of  his                                                                    
responsibility to protect all Alaskans.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:07:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  pointed  to  slide   8,  "FY  2023  Significant                                                                    
Operating    Budget    Requests."     The    slide    listed                                                                    
appropriations/allocations, description of  the request, the                                                                    
amount  of  requested  funding,   and  the  number  of  PCNs                                                                    
associated with each request:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska    State    Troopers/Dispatch   Services    (new                                                                    
     allocation)                                                                                                                
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Funding for Dispatch Services Contract with Kenai                                                                      
     Peninsula Borough                                                                                                          
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $1,819.4 UGF                                                                                                               
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     0                                                                                                                          
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/AST Detachments                                                                                      
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Troopers in Anchorage (1), Tok (1), Palmer (5),                                                                        
     Wasilla (5), and Public Safety Technicians in Juneau                                                                       
     (1) and Soldotna (1)                                                                                                       
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $0.0                                                                                                                       
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     14 PFT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/AST Detachments                                                                                      
     Description                                                                                                              
     Expand AST In-Car Video Storage Services                                                                                   
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $631.5 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     0                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/AST Detachments                                                                                      
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Full Funding for New FY2021 Filled Positions                                                                           
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $631.0 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     0                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/AST Detachments                                                                                      
     Description                                                                                                              
     Funding to Establish Office Space in Togiak and Hooper                                                                     
     Bay                                                                                                                        
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $200.0 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     0                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/AST Detachments                                                                                      
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Positions to Address Domestic Violence, Sexual                                                                         
     Assault, and Missing and Murdered Indigenous Persons                                                                       
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $818.8 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     7 PFT                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/AST Detachments                                                                                      
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Four Criminal Justice Technician Positions                                                                             
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $404.4 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     4 PFT                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/Alaska Bureau of Investigation                                                                       
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Two Office Assistant Positions and Two Criminal                                                                        
     Justice Technician Positions                                                                                               
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $395.5 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     4 PFT                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/Alaska Bureau of Investigation                                                                       
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Two Criminal Intelligence Analyst Positions in the                                                                     
     Technical Crimes Unit Digital Forensics Lab                                                                                
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $234.9 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     2 PFT                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
She  listed  each request  and  provided  a description  and                                                                    
funding number. She emphasized that  much of the work listed                                                                    
in  the details  was currently  being done  by troopers  but                                                                    
could be done by civilians,  which would free up troopers to                                                                    
respond public safety services.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:10:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski understood that  Kenai Peninsula was an                                                                    
organized borough  that could pay  for its own  services. He                                                                    
surmised that Kenai wanted to  charge the state $1.8 million                                                                    
for troopers to provide public safety for the area.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:11:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Deputy Commissioner Morgan replied in the affirmative.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:12:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson wondered  how an  organized borough  with the                                                                    
tax base to  fund its own public safety  coverage would have                                                                    
such a  large request.  He wondered  whether there  were any                                                                    
alternatives to  the request that would  be less financially                                                                    
impactful to the state budget.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:12:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Deputy  Commissioner  Morgan  replied   that  there  was  no                                                                    
immediate  alternative.   He  said  that   the  conversation                                                                    
concerning consolidating  trooper dispatch was  an important                                                                    
one. He  stated that there  had been a  plan in the  past to                                                                    
have a facility  in Southern Alaska, but  due to legislative                                                                    
intent language,  and the inability of  the executive branch                                                                    
to institute a working group, the plan had been halted.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:13:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson remarked  that if the borough  was mandated to                                                                    
supply  their   own  public  safety,  then   what  kept  the                                                                    
department from pulling troopers from the area.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:14:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Deputy  Commissioner Morgan  replied  that pulling  troopers                                                                    
from the  area would  be catastrophic to  the people  in the                                                                    
area.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:15:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  contended  that  in  the  absence  of  state                                                                    
troopers,  Kenai could  rely on  law enforcement  within the                                                                    
municipality.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Deputy Commissioner Morgan replied in the affirmative.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:15:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman thought  that other  organized boroughs  in                                                                    
the  state would  follow suit  with Kenai  and demand  state                                                                    
funded  troopers even  though they  could afford  to provide                                                                    
their own  law enforcement.  He wondered how  the department                                                                    
would say no  to one borough and yes to  another. He pointed                                                                    
out that  there were  communities in the  state that  had no                                                                    
public  safety   services  at   all  while   the  department                                                                    
considered funding over $1 million  in dispatch services for                                                                    
Kenai.  He argued  that this  was wrong  public policy,  and                                                                    
that the department should revisit the request.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:17:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson stressed that the  legislature should send the                                                                    
message,  by not  honoring the  Kenai  request, that  public                                                                    
safety dollars  should be  spread more  equitably throughout                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:18:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  addressed  slide  9,  "Trooper  Vacancy  Factor                                                                    
Information     Alaska  Wildlife  Troopers  Allocation"  The                                                                    
slide  showed  the  top 6  locations  where  positions  were                                                                    
currently  based, the  number of  vacancies in  those areas,                                                                    
and the  actual vacancy  rate. The department  had requested                                                                    
three positions:  Yakutat (1), Saint Marys   (1), and Galena                                                                    
(1).  She  said that the wildlife troopers  were under their                                                                    
budgeted vacancy factor at 6.4 percent.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:19:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered how  the requested positions would                                                                    
be funded.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:19:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  replied that that department  had the discretion                                                                    
to transfer funds  in the personal services  line from other                                                                    
allocations  within  the  state trooper  appropriation.  She                                                                    
said should  the department  need those  funds to  cover the                                                                    
position costs,  the department would attempt  to absorb the                                                                    
costs through transfers from other allocations.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:19:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered whether  the ability to move funds                                                                    
around  to fund  new positions  not previously  budgeted for                                                                    
meant  that there  was too  much   slop  in  the budget.  He                                                                    
added  that, conversely,  there was  the issue  of unwelcome                                                                    
supplemental requests.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:20:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell looked at slide 10, "FY 2023 Significant                                                                             
Operating Budget Requests." The slide detailed the FY 23                                                                        
request for the Alaska Wildlife Trooper Division:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/Alaska Wildlife Troopers                                                                             
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Alaska Wildlife Trooper Positions in St. Mary's                                                                        
     (1),                                                                                                                       
     Galena (1), and Yakutat (1)                                                                                                
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $0.0                                                                                                                       
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     3 PFT                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/Alaska Wildlife Troopers                                                                             
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Funding for Public Safety Technician Time Status                                                                       
     Change                                                                                                                     
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $369.4 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     6 PFT                                                                                                                      
     (6) PPT                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska   State    Troopers/Alaska   Wildlife   Troopers                                                                    
     Aircraft Section                                                                                                           
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Two State Trooper Tactical Flight Officers and One                                                                     
     Aircraft Pilot                                                                                                             
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $614.2 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     3 PFT                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska   State    Troopers/Alaska   Wildlife   Troopers                                                                    
     Aircraft Section                                                                                                           
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Funding for Aircraft Maintenance and Repairs                                                                           
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $1,800.0 UGF                                                                                                               
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     0                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Alaska State Troopers/Alaska Wildlife Troopers Marine                                                                      
     Enforcement                                                                                                                
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Funding for Large and Medium Vessel Fuel and Parts                                                                     
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $500.0 UGF -                                                                                                               
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     0                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:21:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop  queried the job description  of a  Tactical                                                                    
Flight Officer.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:21:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell  replied   that  the  Tactical  Fight                                                                    
Officer  was a  commissioned Alaska  State Trooper  position                                                                    
that   provided    watch   for    operations,   specifically                                                                    
surveillance  camera operations.  The position  lessened the                                                                    
need to pull support resources from patrol.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:22:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop  asked  about   the  $1,800.0  request  for                                                                    
aircraft funding  and wondered  whether it was  connected to                                                                    
the Capital Budget request for two potential aircraft.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:22:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell replied  that the  $1.8 million  request was  to                                                                    
cover  cost  increases  for  fuel  and  parts,  as  well  as                                                                    
increased in  flight hours for existing  aircraft. The money                                                                    
will also fund addition training for pilots.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:22:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop understood  that  the  capital request  was                                                                    
tied to the operating request.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:23:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  wondered where in  the state  the part-time                                                                    
public safety technician positions would be located.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:23:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell replied that she  would get back to the committee                                                                    
with the information.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:24:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked about a  Galena Wildlife  Trooper named                                                                    
Brad Stratton.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:24:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  replied that  he was following  up on                                                                    
the matter.  He said that  there was not a  trooper assigned                                                                    
to  Galena  and  someone  form Anchorage  was  usually  sent                                                                    
there.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:24:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  pointed to  slide  11,  "Village Public  Safety                                                                    
Officer Program."  She relayed  that the slide  captured the                                                                    
VPSO  funding  and filled  positions,  by  fiscal year.  She                                                                    
shared that the  blue part of the graph  reflected the total                                                                    
appropriations  for the  VPSO program,  the red  bars showed                                                                    
the grants  allocated out to  the 10  regional corporations,                                                                    
the  green lined  showed  the VPSO  positions  filled as  of                                                                    
           st                                                                                                                   
December 31   of each fiscal  year. She said that  the FY 23                                                                    
request included funding to support  up to 65 VPSOs, 10 more                                                                    
that was currently funded.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:26:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell addressed  slide 12, "VPSO /  Trooper Hourly Rate                                                                    
Comparison." She  stressed that  it was challenging  to make                                                                    
comparisons  between the  two job  classes.  She noted  that                                                                    
VPSO  were not  employees of  the department  or the  state,                                                                    
rather  they  were the  grantees  for  which the  department                                                                    
provided funding. She stated that  the current VPSO starting                                                                    
hourly rate  was $30.79 per hour.  She noted that the  FY 23                                                                    
request would  bring that  hourly rate  to $32.79  per hour.                                                                    
She relayed  that the trooper  base hourly rate  was $36.04,                                                                    
increasing with  geographic differentials  established under                                                                    
collective bargaining agreements.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:27:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman remarked that in  the past it had been noted                                                                    
that troopers  would relocate to rural  areas to log 3  to 5                                                                    
high   differential  years   for  retirement   purposes.  He                                                                    
wondered whether  the department  monitored such  actions to                                                                    
control the retirement budget.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:28:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell replied  that there  was a  time when                                                                    
Tier 1  and Tier 2  troopers transferred to rural  Alaska to                                                                    
get their  high 3 or  high 5  years. He said  that currently                                                                    
most of the tropers in rural  Alaska were young and not near                                                                    
retirement age.  He shared  that there was  a bid  system in                                                                    
place that would place troopers  closer to retirement age in                                                                    
rural  areas based  on seniority.  He did  not consider  the                                                                    
issue to be a current problem.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:29:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  looked  at  slide   13,  "FY  2023  Significant                                                                    
Operating   Budget  Requests."   The  slide   reflected  the                                                                    
requests for the VPSO appropriation:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Village Public Safety Officer (VPSO) Program/VPSO                                                                          
     Program                                                                                                                    
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add a Tribal Liaison Position                                                                                              
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $125.5 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     1 PFT                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     VPSO Program/VPSO Program                                                                                                  
     Description                                                                                                              
    Add Funding for Ten Village Public Safety Officers                                                                          
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $2,328.0 UGF                                                                                                               
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     0                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     VPSO Program/VPSO Program                                                                                                  
     Description                                                                                                              
     Village Public Safety Officer 5% Salary Increase                                                                           
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $671.6 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     0                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:30:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked  whether any of the  increases were part                                                                    
of the VPSO working group recommendations.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:30:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell replied  that the salary increases were  due to a                                                                    
recommendation from  the working  group. She added  that the                                                                    
departments    commissioner  had   prioritized  the   Tribal                                                                    
liaison  position  to  promote the  department's  image  and                                                                    
service to rural Alaska.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson was in favor of the Tribal liaison position.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:31:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Bishop  wondered   whether  the   Tribal  liaison                                                                    
position would be filled by  a person with working knowledge                                                                    
of rural Alaska and the VPSO program.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:31:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell said  that it was his  intent that the                                                                    
person be knowledgeable of the  Tribes throughout the state.                                                                    
He  said  that ultimately,  he  would  like to  establish  a                                                                    
Tribal  Affairs Office  within the  department. He  admitted                                                                    
that   the  department   had  done   poorly   in  the   past                                                                    
communicating  with  Tribes  when  allocating  resources  to                                                                    
rural Alaska.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:32:57 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:35:28 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:35:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  announced that the meeting  would continue                                                                    
in the afternoon to discuss bonuses and retention.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:36:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  pointed to slide  14, "CDVSA  FY 2021 -  FY 2024                                                                    
Available  Grant  Funding."  The  slide  showed  the  FY  21                                                                    
through FY  24 available grant  funding that the  Council on                                                                    
Domestic  Violence   and  Sexual  Assault  had   awarded  to                                                                    
different programs.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  looked at  slide 15,  "CDVSA FY  2021 -  FY 2024                                                                    
Available Grant  Funding." The graph showed  the increase in                                                                    
federal   funding  received   for  each   program  and   the                                                                    
subsequent  drop in  those funds.  She  said that  in FY  22                                                                    
there had  been a significant  drop in Victims of  Crime Act                                                                    
(VOCA) funds  received by the  council. She stated  that the                                                                    
department  requested,  and  received, funding  through  the                                                                    
Coronavirus State  and Local  Fiscal Recovery  Fund (CSLFRF)                                                                    
to backfill the  amount of funding lost  through VOCA, which                                                                    
enabled CDVSA to keep programs as whole as possible.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:38:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked the presenters  to limit the  use of                                                                    
acronyms.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell stated  that  Diane  Casto, Executive  Director,                                                                    
Council on Domestic Violence  and Sexual Assault, Department                                                                    
of Public  Safety was available  for questions.  She related                                                                    
that the  last two  bars on the  graph showed  the projected                                                                    
amounts for FY  23 and FY 24 that the  council would be able                                                                    
to award  to programs.  She noted  the $3.5  million request                                                                    
for  receipt authority  for the  CSLFRF fund  in FY  23. She                                                                    
pointed to the note at the bottom of the slide:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     $5,000.0 in congressionally directed spending expected                                                                     
     before October 2022                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:40:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  wondered whether  other federal  monies or                                                                    
federal appropriation  bills could  pass that would  help to                                                                    
fund the programs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:40:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  replied that  a federal VOCA  fix bill  had been                                                                    
signed and  would help  to recapitalize  the VOCA  fund. She                                                                    
lamented  that the  timeline  for  seeing increased  federal                                                                    
funding would be quite long.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:40:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   warned  that  the   federal  coronavirus                                                                    
funding  would  wane.  He  wondered  how  the  state  should                                                                    
prepare   for  the   transition   away   from  the   federal                                                                    
coronavirus dollars  and back to  running the programs  on a                                                                    
more normal budget.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:41:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  replied that  one action  would be  to gradually                                                                    
reduce the amount in awards  distributed by the council. She                                                                    
deferred to Ms. Casto.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:42:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman invited Ms. Casto to the table.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:42:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DIANNE  CASTO,  EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR,  COUNCIL  ON  DOMESTIC                                                                    
VIOLENCE  AND SEXUAL  ASSAULT, stated  that the  council had                                                                    
struggled  with the  questions. The  decrease in  VOCA funds                                                                    
had been  noted. She stressed  that although it  seemed that                                                                    
programs  had been  built  using limited  VOCA  funds    the                                                                    
programs were critical for victims  of domestic violence and                                                                    
sexual assault. She  pointed to the FY 21 and  FY 22 funding                                                                    
where funding  had been  reduced by  $1 million,  She stated                                                                    
that once  the council  knew that  federal funding  would be                                                                    
reduced it reduced grant awards  by 5 percent. She said that                                                                    
the administration  had chosen to  give back the  $1 million                                                                    
through the  federal Coronavirus  dollars, which  meant that                                                                    
all  grantees  received their  grants  but  not through  the                                                                    
council. She recognized that on  an economic level the funds                                                                    
needed  to be  reduced  but on  a  humanitarian level  these                                                                    
services were vital for survivors.  She shared that the fund                                                                    
that paid  out awards  under VOCA  was diminished  and would                                                                    
not rebound for  several years. She relayed  that the amount                                                                    
of federal dollars received in 2018 was an anomaly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:46:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought that the committee  was interested                                                                    
in  not  building a  budget  on  $101/bbl.  He said  that  a                                                                    
mechanism would be established to  deal with excess revenue.                                                                    
He hoped  that the council  did not expect the  budget would                                                                    
be crafted using $101/bbl oil.  He warned against relying on                                                                    
the state to supplant federal dollars.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:47:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop  noted the three targeted  program areas. He                                                                    
wondered  how  much  money  was   spent  on  prevention  and                                                                    
education  in   the  state,  citing  the    Choose  Respect                                                                     
campaign from previous years.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:48:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Casto understood  the question  and  agreed that  there                                                                    
should  be  a  balance  between  services  for  victims  and                                                                    
education  and prevention.  She  pointed  to the  designated                                                                    
general fund (DGF)  line on the slide. She  relayed that the                                                                    
passage of SB 91 in 2017  had allowed the council $2 million                                                                    
specifically  for  prevention  efforts. She  said  that  the                                                                    
federal dollars  could be used  for prevention  services but                                                                    
most of the fund went to victims services.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:49:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop agreed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:50:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell   discussed  slide  16,  "FY   2023  Significant                                                                    
Operating   Budget  Requests."   The   slide  provided   the                                                                    
operating request for the CDVSA:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     Council on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault                                                                            
     (CDVSA)/CDVSA                                                                                                              
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add One-Time Funding for Domestic Violence and Sexual                                                                      
     Assault Victim Services Grants                                                                                             
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $3,500.0 Fed                                                                                                               
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     0                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     CDVSA/CDVSA                                                                                                                
     Description                                                                                                              
     Add Two Program Coordinator Positions to Manage Victim                                                                     
     Services and Perpetrator Intervention Programs                                                                             
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $93.2 Fed                                                                                                                  
     $193.2 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     2 PFT                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Appropriation/Allocation                                                                                                 
     CDVSA/CDVSA                                                                                                                
     Description                                                                                                              
     One-Time Funding for Alaska Family Justice Center                                                                          
     Model                                                                                                                      
     Study                                                                                                                      
     Funding                                                                                                                  
     $500.0 UGF                                                                                                                 
     PCNs                                                                                                                     
     0                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:51:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski understood that  the other body had cut                                                                    
the  funding  for  the  $500,000  request  to  $200,000.  He                                                                    
wondered  whether the  department would  be able  to conduct                                                                    
the study with the deduced funds.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:51:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell replied  that that  DPS  did not  have a  robust                                                                    
enough estimate of the true  cost. She shared that the other                                                                    
body had  reduced the request  and reallocated  the $300,000                                                                    
for grants. She  said that the guidance from  the other body                                                                    
was that if additional funding  was needed for the study the                                                                    
department could transfer the money back.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:51:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  noted  that  the proposed  FY  23  budget                                                                    
listed 233 additional employees  across the state, 229 minus                                                                    
the Court System and the  Legislature.  He expressed concern                                                                    
about adding employees  in a budget built on too  high of an                                                                    
oil price.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:52:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  pointed  to   slide  17,  "FY2022  Supplemental                                                                    
Capital Budget Request (All $ in Thousands)":                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ? Aircraft Purchase and Replacement, $6,000.0 UGF                                                                          
     ? AST Unmanned Aerial System, $450.0 UGF                                                                                   
    ? AWT Medium-Class Vessel Replacement, $1,800.0 UGF                                                                         
     ? Body Worn Camera Initiative, $4,524.3 UGF                                                                                
     ? Mobile and Handheld Radio Replacement, $3,728.3 UGF                                                                      
     ? VPSO Law Enforcement Program Support, $2,980.0 UGF                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:53:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  wondered whether any of  the requests were                                                                    
in previous  capital budgets and subsequently  vetoed by the                                                                    
governor. He  contended that there  had been  numerous items                                                                    
in the past that had been  included in the Capital Budget at                                                                    
the  administrations    request  and  then  vetoed   by  the                                                                    
governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:53:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell replied  that she  did not  know if  any of  the                                                                    
requests had been previously vetoed.  She offered to provide                                                                    
the information to the committee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:54:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked for an  example of the last bullet point                                                                    
on the slide, VPSO Law Enforcement Program Support.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:54:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  replied that the  department had  consulted with                                                                    
the ten  VPSO grantee employers  to assess their  needs. The                                                                    
request  would cover  a building  heating system  in Angoon,                                                                    
and other  housing repairs and refurbishments.  She listed a                                                                    
variety of needs that had been requested.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:55:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  remarked   that   the   request  was   a                                                                    
supplemental request from  FY 22 and there  were ample funds                                                                    
being  considered in  the FY  23  budget. He  said that  the                                                                    
committee  would consider  funding the  items in  the FY  23                                                                    
budget and did  not believe that the items should  be in the                                                                    
supplemental request.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:56:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  looked  at slide  18,  "FY2023  Capital  Budget                                                                    
Request (All $ in Thousands)":                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ? Law Enforcement Off Highway Vehicle Replacement,                                                                         
     $750.0                                                                                                                     
     UGF                                                                                                                        
     ? Marine Fisheries Patrol Improvements, $1,200.0 Fed                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:57:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   hoped  that  the  department   had  fuel                                                                    
calculations in their budget to  make sure that the troopers                                                                    
had the  ability to  use their fleet  to do  enforcement and                                                                    
patrol of fisheries  and game hunting. He  stressed that the                                                                    
oil price had change since the budget had been crafted.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:57:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell replied  that  that  there was  major                                                                    
concern  with the  vessel and  aircraft fuel  prices forcing                                                                    
the department to scale back its operations.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:57:51 AM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  said that the commissioner  should let the                                                                    
committee  know  what  a reasonable  request  would  be.  He                                                                    
worried  about the  trooper's ability  to  respond and  said                                                                    
that  there  was no  interest  in  having troopers  inactive                                                                    
because  of the  cost of  gasoline. He  reiterated that  the                                                                    
department  should  ask  for   what  they  needed  regarding                                                                    
funding for vessel and aircraft fuel.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop thanked  the department  for their  work on                                                                    
catching an arsonist in Fairbanks.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  HIRING BONUSES  and RETENTION  INCENTIVES BY                                                                  
THE DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT and BUDGET                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:58:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  stated  that the  presentation  would  be                                                                    
heard that afternoon.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:00:03 AM                                                                                                                   
RECESSED                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
11:00:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 11:00 a.m.